Proposal:Extend camp site

Extend camp_site
Proposal status: Abandoned (inactive)
Proposed by: various
Tagging: tourism=camp_site
Applies to: relation,area,node
Definition: Extending annotation of camping areas
Statistics:
Rendered as: Green area with tent icon
Draft started: 2009-12-11
RFC start: 2010-01-13
Vote start: *
Vote end: *

For discussion please use the Talk page: Talk:Proposed features/Extend camp_site

Origin

This proposal is based on an ongoing discussion from the German forum. See https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=5630&p=1

See also Talk:Tag:tourism=camp_site#Further ideas

Idea

An annotation scheme shall be given to describe camping areas in more detail than currently possible. Thus a set of tags is proposed that can be used to provide more information than using tourism=camp_site alone.

It is proposed to create several objects for several amenities and group them using a relation. Statements which are valid for the whole site and of non-physical nature are to be tagged on the relation. General physical properties are to be tagged on the enclosing area, if existent. See Relations/Proposed/Site.

area=yes is implicit for enclosing way.

Tagging

In the thread in the forum and in later additions the following tags were proposed. These need to be cleaned up and verified.

Whenever NUMBER is mentioned as a tag value it means that a numeric value shall be used instead.

Tags for whole camp site

This attributes are really new and should be tagged directly on the camp_site node/way.

tourism=camp_site Classifies the whole site as a camping area. To be used on relation (or enclosing area, if existent).

capacity:tents=yes/no/NUMBER, capacity:caravans=yes/no/NUMBER Available spaces to put tents or caravans

capacity:cabins=yes/no/NUMBER Cabins, apartments or houses to rent

scout=yes/no/boy/girl If the place is only for one gender

opening_hours=* Limitations on access to site. Can express daily opening hours, opening hours at specific days or season limits.

quiet_time=* A period when noise shall be avoided, usually during nights and lunchtime. Values should follow the conventions of opening_hours=*

payment:*=yes/no Specification of payment method like in amenity=vending_machine

power_supply=cee_17_blue Describing the power socket for. This means P+N+E,6h according to IEC60309 but see power_supply=* for other values.

naturism=yes/no/accepted/preferred Nude camping

minstay=*, maxstay=* The minimum and maximum permitted stay durations if limits are existent. Specify values such as minstay=1 night or maxstay=8 nights.

Already used tags

This attributes aren't new but should be listed here because they are useful to describe camp sites.

name=* The site's name

operator=* The site operator's name

wheelchair=yes/no If access is possible for wheelchair users. What about other disabilities?

internet_access=yes/no/terminal/wlan Usually WiFi. Terminals are to be tagged as separate nodes.

internet_access:fee=no/yes/customers Fee payable for internet use

website=* Address of the site's web site (containing prices, load, pictures, …)

phone=* Make sure to give numbers in a scheme that works globally. This tag was refused in a voting but is in heavy use nevertheless (Voting can be ignored as it is only an instrument to find consents in OSM. Despite the result a consent seems to be there.).

addr:street=*, addr:housenumber=* More general information addr=* and Proposed features/House numbers/Karlsruhe Schema

dog=yes/no, cat=yes/no, reptile=yes/no, horse=yes/no Indicate if animals are allowed on the site.

refugee=yes/no Spontaneous camp sites after disasters that need humanitarian aid. Not to be used for vacancies! See WikiProject_Haiti#Features for usage example.

Tags for separate objects

This attributes are duplicates cause they could be expressed by an separate node within the relation. This allows to mark the place structure. If the position of the objects is known, tag them as separate nodes. Otherwise the following tag can be given on the enclosing way (camp_site area).

waste_disposal=yes/no or amenity=waste_disposal Are place to bin your litter. Use waste=* to specify types of waste.

toilets=yes/no or amenity=toilets Availability of toilets

shower=yes/no/hot/cold or amenity=shower Availability of showers

drinking_water=yes/no or amenity=drinking_water If drinking water is available

waterway=water_point If refilling is available for campers/mobile homes.

washing_machine=yes/no Self-washing of cloths is available

dryer=yes/no A device to dry clothes is there

shop=laundry To wash clothes.

amenity=restaurant, amenity=fast_food These two should be united somehow.

leisure=beach_resort, sport=swimming Marks where swimming is possible

leisure=playground A area intended for playing children.

surface=* To specify surfaces of areas or ways

tourism=picnic_site A place to take a meal outside, usually a table and benches are provided

camp_site=reception The reception which is usually located at the camp site's entrance

tents=yes/no, caravans=yes/no, cabins=yes/no Marks areas on the site that can be used to put tents or caravans

amenity=parking For parking lots belonging to a site

Tagging ways on camp site

highway=path, foot=*, bicycle=*, motorcar=*, motorcycle=* Streets on site and their access restrictions. See also access=*

highway=service Streets intended for vehicles. These can also be used by pedestrians if not explicitly specified otherwise.

Tagging of individual pitches

Note: Tags in this section have been under discussion on the tagging list and a newer proposal covering this is located at Proposed features/camp site pitch.

One might be interested in tagging individual pitches. Pitch means (in this context) the free spaces used to place 1 tent or 1 caravan.

There may be items like tables, water supply, fire rings associated with the pitch. If the item is specifically for the use of the occupant of the pitch, then use pitch specific tags. If the item is shared by multiple pitches or by the campground as a whole then it should be tagged using a more general tag.

Create a point or a way and apply the following tags to do so:

Tag Description
camp_site=pitchThis is a pitch for a tent or caravan or motorhome.
ref=*If the pitch is identified, usually by a post with a number on it, use the ref tag record the identification.
camp_site:type=tent;caravan;motorhomeThe things we can put on this pitch.
camp_site:parking=yes/noYou can park next to your tent. If parking is shared by more than one pitch, then tag the parking location with amenity=parking instead.
camp_site:table=yes/noThere is a table for exclusive use of the pitch occupants. If the table is shared then tag the table location with leisure=picnic_table instead.
camp_site:fire=ring/stoveThere is a fireplace or fire ring for exclusive use of pitch occupants. If the fire ring or fire place is shared then tag the fire location with fireplace=* instead.
camp_site:surface=grass/gravel/concreteThe surface the tent or caravan will be placed on. Consider using surface=* on a larger area instead if the surface does not change across pitches.
camp_site:electric=yes/noThere is an electrical hookup for this pitch.
camp_site:water=yes/noThere is a water tap for this pitch. If there is a water tap but it is shared, then tag the tap location with amenity=drinking_water instead.
camp_site:drain=yes/noThere is a grey water drain for this pitch.

Tagging of relation

type=site It is a compound of several objects

site=camp_site It is a camp site

Put everything that is part of the site as members of the relation. Role names are not part of this proposal and should be left empty therefore.

Tagging examples

Example 1

Camp site with convenience shop.

To be tagged on line enclosing the whole site. See green area in image.

Key Value Description
tourismcamp_siteIt is a camp site
nameLakesideExample name
operatorMax MustermannSite owner's name
dognoNo dogs are allowed on site

To be tagged on convenience store's node or way. See red area in image.

Key Value Description
shopconvenienceA shop selling basic items (like a small supermarket)
opening_hoursMo-Fr 09:00-16:00Shop is open Monday till Friday from 09:00am until 04:00pm local time.
buildingyesBecause the way should represent a building's outline

To be tagged on relation

Key Value Description
typesiteIt is a site consisting of multiple objects
sitecamp_siteIt is a camping related site
nameLakesideSame as on polygon

Set the polygon (green area) and shop (red area) as members with empty roles.

Example 2

Camp site with convenience shop, playground, different areas for tents and caravans, waste disposal, toilets, hot shower and a lake.

To be tagged on line enclosing the whole site. See green area in image.

Key Value Description
tourismcamp_siteIt is a camp site
nameLakesideExample name
operatorMax MustermannSite owner's name
dognoNo dogs are allowed on site
drinking_wateryesRefilling with drinking water is available for caravans
naturismacceptedNude camping is allowed, although not encouraged
washing_machineyesA washing machine is available on site but its position is not know at the moment and therefore not tagged a node.
power_supplycee_17_blueBlue 3-pin socket with 230V is available

To be tagged on convenience store's node or way. See red area in image.

Key Value Description
shopconvenienceA shop selling basic items (like a small supermarket)
opening_hoursMo-Fr 09:00-16:00Shop is open Monday till Friday from 09:00am until 04:00pm local time.
buildingyesBecause the way should represent a building's outline
naturismnoNude shopping is not allowed. Note that this has priority over the tagging of the whole site because the shop's area lies inside the area of the whole site (is contained area within other area).

Tagging of objects on site

Kind of object Style in example image Tagging
PlaygroundYellow arealeisure=playground, surface=sand
Caravan areaStriped areacaravans=yes, capacity:caravans=30 (if known that 30 spaces are existing)
Tent areaCheckerboard areatents=yes, capacity:tents=45 (if known that 45 spaces are existing)
LakeBlue areanatural=water, name=Example Loch, sport=swimming (consider putting sport=swimming on a node of the lake if this is the only accessible spot)
Holding tank disposalIcon Wamenity=sanitary_dump_station,
ToiletIcon Tamenity=toilets, unisex=yes, changing_table=yes, wheelchair=limited
Shower with hot water availableIcon Sshower=hot

To be tagged on relation

Key Value Description
typesiteIt is a site consisting of multiple objects
sitecamp_siteIt is a camping related site
nameLakesideSame as on polygon

The relation members are:

  • Whole camp site: green area
  • Shop: red area
  • Playground: yellow area
  • Caravan area: striped area
  • Tent area: checkerboard area
  • Lake: blue area
  • Disposal: icon W
  • Toilet: icon T
  • Shower: icon S

Discussion

For discussion please use the Talk page: Talk:Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site

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